January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

[=b Rate this up] - Cannot rate your own content

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Please make something good from it.
either hide the button for “own content” (thats sure false, because the entire thread is not the original posters content)
or give the original poster points for each rating of her/his proposal

see also How to avoid ratings users give just for gaining points [developer.qt.nokia.com]

[EDIT] “=b” is the thumbs up icon ;) and “Cannot rate…” is the text of the hint on mouseover

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January 7, 2011

Denis Kormalev Denis Kormalev
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Wolf P., hm, not soure that I understood correctly, but restriction for rating your own content is by design. It is obvious that user will rate up his own content.
Maybe removing (or greying out) “rate this up” button will be ok.

January 7, 2011

Alexandra Alexandra
Hobby Entomologist
607 posts

I see, it’s confusing because there is still something important missing in the forum: the Q&A features.

The rating as we see it now is not meant to “reward” the user who has written the piece of content to be rated. It is nothing but a way to indicate which pieces are the most useful and should show on top of the tag search list.

The Q&A features will make it possible to “reward” users for answers on the forum. Currently, we’re thinking something like “helpful” and “solving” buttons. That may change but so far, that’s the idea.

The plan is to have that implemented before summer.

[DISCLAIMER: Plan means plan, not guarantee. :P]

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January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

Denis Kormalev wrote:
It is obvious that user will rate up his own content.
not all users are sharks ;)

Denis Kormalev wrote:
Maybe removing (or greying out) “rate this up” button will be ok.
Maybe better to have mistakes that give such impulses. I’d prefer good solutions over perfect ones. Now we can gray it out (hide it), but we can also make sense of this little mistake, when we have the option to give rating the true meaning of rating :)

January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

Alexandra, in my opinion, we need no adoption of “I like this” buttons, whe are already rating :)

January 7, 2011

Andre Andre
Robot Herder
6296 posts
Denis Kormalev wrote:
Wolf P., hm, not soure that I understood correctly, but restriction for rating your own content is by design. It is obvious that user will rate up his own content. Maybe removing (or greying out) “rate this up” button will be ok.

Well, but the rating is on the level of the whole topic, which, I would hope, consists of more than just the opening poster’s content, at least after a while. Or can’t anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?

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January 7, 2011

Volker Volker
Ant Farmer
5428 posts
Andre wrote:
Or can’t anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?

Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.

January 7, 2011

Andre Andre
Robot Herder
6296 posts
Volker wrote:
Andre wrote:
Or can’t anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?

Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.


Seems inconsistent to me then.

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January 7, 2011

Alexandra Alexandra
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607 posts
Wolf P. wrote:
Alexandra, in my opinion, we need no adoption of “I like this” buttons, whe are already rating :)

Nonono. You’re mixing up things here. What we already have is the “Like” button if you want, you’re right. What we will implement is a way of saying “thanks” to a certain user to build Karma.

Is it more clear now?

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January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

Volker, Absolutely. Inconsistent.
The button hint is the proof.

I forgot this third option:
rating could also make points for all posters (up to the rating time).

or a combination in option number four:
rating gives 2 points for OP and 1 for each poster. This will heavily improve the quality, becaus abuse is detected very fast: it is done by those who do consistently one Reply.
And leads to more response.

January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

Alexandra Leisse wrote:

Nonono. You’re mixing up things here. What we already have is the “Like” button if you want, you’re right. What we will implement is a way of saying “thanks” to a certain user to build Karma.

noOOO!
This button its a dummy???
A pure point producer???
Say that I’m wrong. :)

January 7, 2011

Volker Volker
Ant Farmer
5428 posts

Wolf P. wrote:
Alexandra Leisse wrote:

Nonono. You’re mixing up things here. What we already have is the “Like” button if you want, you’re right. What we will implement is a way of saying “thanks” to a certain user to build Karma.

noOOO!
This button its a dummy???
A pure point producer???
Say that I’m wrong. :)

Sorry, you’re right :-)

January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
354 posts

…and when will we convert this penalty into a goal?

January 7, 2011

Alexandra Alexandra
Hobby Entomologist
607 posts

I’ll try again. ;)

The rating button is supposed to identify valuable content. It’s similar to the thumbs-up button on Facebook that recommends something to your friends. By rating content up you recommend it to others and influence its position in the search results if users search for tags. That’s all.

The second part to this is the Q(uestion)&A(nswer) features. They reflect on the creator of the content (helpful answer, solved the problem) while the rating only reflects on the content itself.

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January 7, 2011

Andre Andre
Robot Herder
6296 posts

So why can’t the opening poster of a topic rate that topic up then? I mean, if I get an excellent answer to my question, why help make that usefulness visible to other by rating it up?

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January 7, 2011

peppe peppe
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1026 posts

IMHO I don’t see any value in rating a thread up or down…

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