January 6, 2011

fcrochik fcrochik
Lab Rat
517 posts

What is in your toolbox (chapter 1: IDEs)?

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I heard somewhere that developers are just big kids playing with their toys.

We all have our favorite toys to do our grown-up jobs. What are yours? What do you like/dislike about each one of them?

My List:

  • Visual Studio 2010: It is the IDE I have used more often. It is great for .NET and has plenty of helpful tools. With every new release I feel that support for pure C++ development is getting worst and this is one of the reasons why I am moving away from it (and MFC).
  • Eclipse: for all my JAVA development. It is great for J2EE. I used to like NetBeans better for J2ME but haven’t had any need for it in a long time.
  • Qt Creator: when I first started I couldn’t imagine why someone would need another IDE but I have to say that with every new release I like it more.

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January 6, 2011

Tobias Hunger Tobias Hunger
Robot Herder
3387 posts

For me it is Qt Creator only these days… We are eating our dog food:-) I really like the tool, so I use it for my hobby projects, too.

For small tasks I still end up in vi, but that is really just to remove a couple of characters here and there. For bigger things using a real IDE is so much nicer!

January 6, 2011

BlackDante BlackDante
Lab Rat
55 posts
fcrochik wrote:
I heard somewhere that developers are just big kids playing with their toys.

I can not disagree with this sentence :) I still feel that I am a big kid, only the toys are little diferece :)

But back to the topic:
When I am trying to do somethink with Qt I use a Qt Creator, if I am codeing with pure C++ I use Code::Block, it is a expanded IDE, unfortunately I never programing in .NET or JAVA so I can’t tell somethink about IDE for this Language

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January 6, 2011

Scylla Scylla
Lab Rat
238 posts

The Visual Studio is a realy good IDE. The problem is that there is nothing comparable on Linux / Mac. My daily work now is on a linux platform. And therefore I started whith the Qt Creator all the day. Now, when I have a project under Windows, I prefer the Qt Creator too, because of the complete Qt integration, the better code completion, intellisense a.s.o.

What I’m realy missing is the perfect debugger from the Visual Studio!!!

January 6, 2011

Zlatomir Zlatomir
Hobby Entomologist
361 posts

1) Qt Creator, sometimes even without Qt ;)

2) I’m mostly a “windows-person”, so Visual Studio is in my toolbox ;)
What i don’t like about Visual Studio 2010 is that the IDE is slow (maybe the WPF interface wasn’t a good idea)

About the compiler i have to say that VC++ it is getting closer to the standard (even with 0x features) and it’s a good compiler (about MFC i can’t comment because i didn’t use it, i use VS with Qt ;) )

January 6, 2011

ucomesdag ucomesdag
Lab Rat
243 posts

Only Qt Creator, I even use it to do some quick edits of php stuff (notepad doesn’t like unix line breaks, but I do :-) ) else vi.

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January 7, 2011

Denis Kormalev Denis Kormalev
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1654 posts

Qt Creator mostly, but sometimes Kate or vim is used (depends on where am I: in console or in file manager).

January 7, 2011

Gerolf Gerolf
Robot Herder
3253 posts

At work we use MSVS 2008 only, at home I use QtCreator.

I think, from point of features, MSVS is a really good IDE, but the Qt integration is better in QtCreator :-)

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January 7, 2011

Andre Andre
Robot Herder
6399 posts

QtCreator suffices for most of my needs, though I do keep an external editor at hand to editing other relevant files than code (XML, CSV, whatnot). On windows I use Notepad++ for that, on Linux Kate.

January 7, 2011

Volker Volker
Ant Farmer
5428 posts

More a tool’s container than a box :-)

  • Qt Creator for Qt development on the Mac
  • MSVC 2005 for Qt on Windows (mainly only for compiling, as development is made on the Mac)
  • MSVS 2005 for a special project that requires it on Windows
  • MSVS 2008 for another version of that project on Windows
  • XCode for the Mac Versions of that project
  • Codewarrior for old versions of that project on the Mac (thank the big spaghetti monster that this version is end-of-lifetime!)
  • Eclipse for all the Java stuff
  • Trying Qt Creator @ Win to replace MSVS
  • Qt Creator for some Linux stuff, if needed
  • and of course vim for the fast hack :-)

If I had to choose, I would definitely go for Qt Creator for all C/C++ stuff. Eclipse is nice, but bloated and slow (waiting 5 seconds for your character to appear on the screen because that beast is collecting garbage is no fun)

January 7, 2011

ucomesdag ucomesdag
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243 posts

Volker wrote:
Eclipse is nice, but bloated and slow (waiting 5 seconds for your character to appear on the screen because that beast is collecting garbage is no fun)

That was my main frustration with eclipse and the reason to ditch it in favor of Qt Creator. And the Microsoft approach (MSVS) never was my cup of tea.

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January 8, 2011

Volker Volker
Ant Farmer
5428 posts

Additionally, Eclipse still lacks some very basic features like code folding (works only for a method as a whole, not for single blocks like if/for/switch/etc.). The dock windows are always in the way when you need much space and they are missing when you need them (one can get SO accustomed to the ESC-key-pattern of Creator…). Code completion is miserably slow sometimes (waiting some seconds before the UI is responsive again) and some more. And instead of fixing those basic things they bloat it with a bunch of new features. It’s simply not my beast :-)

Regarding MSVS – a bit better, but still no ESC key that moves the unneeded dock windows out of the way :-)

XCode … clutters my screen with uncountable toplevel windows for every source file. Else, not bad.

Codewarrior – I’d better stop writing now :-)

January 8, 2011

Stavros Filippidis Stavros Filippidis
Lab Rat
388 posts

1) Qt Creator for C++/Qt [this is my main tool nowdays]
2) Netbeans for Java/SWING

Platforms: Mac OS X [main nowdays], Windows, Ubuntu, Debian.

January 8, 2011

deni-herdiman deni-herdiman
Lab Rat
6 posts

Just vi, qmake and make :)

January 8, 2011

Volker Volker
Ant Farmer
5428 posts
deni-herdiman wrote:
Just vi, qmake and make :)

Give Qt Creator a shot – it has a “fake vi” mode for the editor and you gain the additional goodies like refactoring, inline help, jump to definition/declaration, code completion and the like and just calls qmake and make under the hoods. It’s really worth a try!

January 8, 2011

Stavros Filippidis Stavros Filippidis
Lab Rat
388 posts
Volker wrote:
… it has a “fake vi” mode for the editor …

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