January 6, 2011

fcrochik fcrochik
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Group Wiki - is it any different than “main” wiki? Why group wiki edited pages don’t show on profile?

 

I see the group wiki pages as a subset of the main wiki. Almost like a category. Am I mistaken?

I noticed that the group wiki pages that I edited don’t show on my profile. Is that a bug or was intentional?

If they are supposed to be different, how different are they?

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January 6, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
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…there is also no tagging available, a problem too.

I think (guess?) that only group members can edit the wiki (as group forum postings can only by done be members)

January 6, 2011

Gerolf Gerolf
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The group wiki is a seperate wiki, it’s not a suppart of the main wiki. That also why you can only link with absolute urls between them.

Tagging in the group wikis was requested, but I think it’s currently not implemented.

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January 6, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
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Gerolf wrote:
Tagging in the group wikis was requested, but I think it’s currently not implemented.
I remember the discussion… have you a link to the bug or posting?

January 6, 2011

Gerolf Gerolf
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sorry, I currently don’t find it :-(

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January 6, 2011

Alexandra Alexandra
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Let me explain.

The group wiki is completely independent from the main wiki, which is why there is no integration with tagging or user profiles. And that is on purpose.

Our idea was to limit the groups to content that is only interesting to members of the group, at least during a certain period. As soon as a piece of content is interesting to everybody it should move to the main wiki where we do all we can to make sure it’s discoverable.

Examples:

  • a group of people is working on a large tutorial that is not quite ready for prime time
  • translations of existing content (which might even stay in the group wiki)
  • collaboration in the meta group
  • a niche topic that is so niche that users would check the group anyway

Does that make sense?

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January 6, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
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Yes, that makes sense.

Would isolated tagging databases for group wikis make sense too?
When wiki pages can move between wikis, the tags could be literally exported.

January 6, 2011

Gerolf Gerolf
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I think, the pages must be copied by hand, so by us.
If the wikis are seperated, how would you otherwise transfere the pages?

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January 6, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
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Now it’s done by hand. I imagine an export function for wiki pages for the future :)

January 6, 2011

Alexandra Alexandra
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While it sounds fancy and all, I have my doubts that we will put that on the list any time soon. Manual copy and paste sounds very doable to me.

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January 6, 2011

Gerolf Gerolf
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But, you know, wishes are allowed :-)

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January 6, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
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:) Until I discovered tagging, I was just a wiki fan.

January 6, 2011

fcrochik fcrochik
Lab Rat
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Alexandra Leisse wrote:
Let me explain.

The group wiki is completely independent from the main wiki, which is why there is no integration with tagging or user profiles. And that is on purpose.

Our idea was to limit the groups to content that is only interesting to members of the group, at least during a certain period. As soon as a piece of content is interesting to everybody it should move to the main wiki where we do all we can to make sure it’s discoverable.

Examples:

  • a group of people is working on a large tutorial that is not quite ready for prime time
  • translations of existing content (which might even stay in the group wiki)
  • collaboration in the meta group
  • a niche topic that is so niche that users would check the group anyway

Does that make sense?

Thanks that is what I was looking for…
So in short: group wikis are for content that are for group members only… If they can serve the rest of the community they should moved to the main wiki by copy and paste…

I guess the one page I have created so far is already on the wrong place :( I will work on it.

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January 7, 2011

Wolf P. Wolf P.
Ant Farmer
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Are the groups already documented in the main wiki? Where?

 
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