April 7, 2012

Volker Volker
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Forum for Qt5 related questions?

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With Qt 5 being officially released as alpha, more questions will come up in the forums here. What do you think of a dedicated Qt 5 forum?

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April 7, 2012

koahnig koahnig
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You got my vote. I think that is a good idea.

April 7, 2012

leon.anavi leon.anavi
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Your proposition sounds good :)

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April 8, 2012

mlong mlong
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I agree. Sounds like a good idea.

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April 9, 2012

FreddeB FreddeB
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My AVG antivirus software reported multiple threats when extracting the Qt5 alpha.. I suppose it isn’t a real threat , but here is the info about it anyway.. hope someone can pass this on to the developers..

qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0\qtjsbackend\src\3rdparty\v8\test\mjsunit\regress\regress-490.js
qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0\qtjsbackend\src\3rdparty\v8\test\mjsunit\string-replace-gc.js
qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0\qtscript\tests\auto\qscriptv8testsuite\tests\nested-repetition-count-overflow.js

They were reported as virus script/exploit while unpacking it with winrar

Regards
Fredrik

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April 9, 2012

Ivan Čukić Ivan Čukić
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I’d rather have a Qt4 / Qt5 tag (which would be shown alongside the topic title) than a dedicated forum – all the subforums in ‘Qt Development’ should exist for both Qt 4 and Qt 5. IMHO, duplicating them would be unnecessary.

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April 9, 2012

Andre Andre
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Ivan Čukić wrote:
I’d rather have a Qt4 / Qt5 tag (which would be shown alongside the topic title) than a dedicated forum – all the subforums in ‘Qt Development’ should exist for both Qt 4 and Qt 5. IMHO, duplicating them would be unnecessary.

In principle, I would agree, but I think that such a thing is currently not yet possible with the forum software in use here. A normal tag is not enough, IMHO, as you cannot see those when you view the list of topics. As Qt 5 is just an alpha, I think having a separate forum for now would be the best solution to separate the Qt 5 discussions from the normal stream of questions.

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April 15, 2012

Eddy Eddy
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One more vote from me.

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April 24, 2012

Alexandra Alexandra
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Let’s say we agree that it temporarily makes sense to have a dedicated Qt 5 forum. I don’t think we should start having duplicate forums either.

So temporarily we could have a Qt 5 forum. When do you think it should go away again? What would be its expiry date, so to speak?

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April 24, 2012

Andre Andre
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How about until 5.0 or even 5.1 is released?

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April 24, 2012

Volker Volker
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Can we have forums that are closed for new threads, but are still available for reading the posts, and probably sending comments to existing threads?

April 25, 2012

Gerolf Gerolf
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Alexandra wrote:
Let’s say we agree that it temporarily makes sense to have a dedicated Qt 5 forum. I don’t think we should start having duplicate forums either.

So temporarily we could have a Qt 5 forum. When do you think it should go away again? What would be its expiry date, so to speak?

I would say, a forum for a major release before it is out is a good idea, something like a beta version forum, pre release forum :-)

If it would be alpha/beta/pre release, it could just stay open :-)

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April 25, 2012

koahnig koahnig
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The discussion here shows that there are a “rat tail” of implications.

I think the reason for asking for a separate forum was the need to untangle the different topics a bit. This is a needed for Qt5 at the moment since not everybody has it in his/her focus at this time.
However, also in the future it is most likely required since an answer for Qt4 or Qt5 might be completely different.

Keeping this in mind I would say that a separate forum is good and manageable up to something around 10% of the new threads. Around 20-25% it becomes a mess again.

A different tag came up in the discussion, but this is also a bit of a cumbersome solution. Because it is simply a tag and does not allow a separate type of sorting.

@Alexandra: Is there another option supported by this platform?

An additional layer of separation would be ideal. Something as a radio button when starting the thread (Qt4/Qt5/General) could help, but there is also a way for managing, displaying it differently afterwards?

April 25, 2012

Alexandra Alexandra
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Andre wrote:
How about until 5.0 or even 5.1 is released?

That’s what I thought initially as well.

Volker wrote:
Can we have forums that are closed for new threads, but are still available for reading the posts, and probably sending comments to existing threads?

Yes, that is possible. However, it means that we accumulate forums over time, that only serve as “archive” and will clutter the forum. I must admit, I’m not a fan. :P

Gerolf wrote:

I would say, a forum for a major release before it is out is a good idea, something like a beta version forum, pre release forum :-)

If it would be alpha/beta/pre release, it could just stay open :-)

That would solve my issues with the clutter at least. Let’s turn it around: what exactly is the new forum supposed to solve?

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April 25, 2012

Andre Andre
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How about we call such a forum something like “Future Qt” or “Qt in progress”, so we’d be able to keep using the forum for all non-released versions?

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April 25, 2012

Volker Volker
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Alexandra wrote:
That would solve my issues with the clutter at least. Let’s turn it around: what exactly is the new forum supposed to solve?

Separate stuff of 5.0 from 4.0. As already stated, questions and solutions for 5.0 will differ significantly from those for the 4.x series. This will be even more the case later for 5.1 or 5.2, when the QML Desktop Components are ready for prime time.

My guess is that a big bunch of developers will jump into developing with Qt 5 only after a 5.1 release.

To ease answering stuff – and to avoid a myriad of “Are you using Qt 4 or 5” questions – separate forums would make sense for me. As time goes by, traffic would slowly move from the Qt 4 forum to the Qt 5 forum. But for the next couple of years, we will have much more Qt 4 related questions on Qt 5 times, than we have Qt 3 questions nowadays.

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